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RE: Reinvent blockchain

sorin.cristescu in #blockchain • 6 years ago

"Given how good this product is, there is little doubt that it would have sold well even without advertising" ... if this reasoning held true, the advertising industry would not be worth hundreds of billions of dollars, wouldn't you say ?

But ok, steem is a lot less crowded by good content than the markets are crowded by good products so perhaps you are right in the case of steem, I'll try as well.

However what you are implying is that because bot-usage can be abused it means all bot-advertising is bad and should be fought.

Think about it: because some people abuse bots, all bot usage is bad ? Does that sound ok to you ?

6 years ago in #blockchain by sorin.cristescu

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tubcat 6 years ago (edited)

You’re welcome to use bots to boost the visibility of your posts. All you need to do is decline rewards. This way you won’t be taking from the rewards pool.

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sorin.cristescu 6 years ago

Wait a moment ... I fail to see how that makes sense ... if I publish content and do not use bots, it's ok to get rewards from the reward pool ... but if I publish content AND in addition send steem to bots (which also requires some effort and thus, as the steem whitepaper notices, it is a form of work), it becomes "not ok" to get any rewards at all ...

In other words, "it's ok to work more, but only if you accept to spend for working more instead of being rewarded for working less" ... what kind of logic is that ?

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tubcat 6 years ago

You’re really reaching here.

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sorin.cristescu 6 years ago

I do not know this expression (do not forget that I'm not a native speaker) but I guess it 's the expression you use when you are short of logical arguments and do not want to admit that you don't make sense :-D

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tubcat 6 years ago (edited)

No, it means that you are struggling to justify the use of bots to increase your exposure.

I’m also not interested in debate. As you can see by the value of downvotes on your post, many Steemit users dislike the use of bots. My vote value is the least of your concerns should you continue to use them.

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sorin.cristescu 6 years ago

I am actually not interested in the vote values.

The debate, on the contrary, is central to the future of steem. In general, these types of debates have always appeared in new social systems, they are bound to appear.

These are debates about how the system behaves when people are not doing what the creators of the system have hoped they would be doing, but are rather trying to "increase their utility".

I do not feel a need now to justify the use of bots. Do you think companies need to justify their use of ad-agencies to advertise their products ?

Have you ever seen a company wringing its (virtual) hands because they felt embarrassed that they advertised their products ? You haven't, right ?

On the other hand, I have already written a theoretical treatment of the topic of "advertising bots", you are welcome to comment it:

https://steempeak.com/steem/@sorin.cristescu/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-bid-bots

In short, bots offer a service which is potentially desirable to people from outside the steem system. Bots can add to the number of people who take the jump and decide to buy steem with fiat. And the steem ecosystem needs those people, as I explain in the above paper.

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tubcat 6 years ago

Sure, buy votes to advertise your content. Just make sure you are declining rewards so that you don’t take from the reward pool.

And it’s not like you are advertising a product or service. You’re not a business. So your argument falls pretty flat from that perspective.

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sorin.lite 6 years ago

Why is it that by advertising I forfeit the right to be rewarded for the work done in researching and writing ? By virtue of what logic ? Where else, in what other situation advertising something cancels all right to be compensated for creating that thing?

Also, indeed, I am not a business indeed. But I happen to think that it would be GOOD for steem if real established businesses were to come to steem and start creating content and advertising ... Perhaps you should read the parable of the finger and the moon ...

https://www.satrakshita.com/the_finger_and_the_moon.htm

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