TradFi Guidelines Update - Member and Authors Access Update

in TradFi12 days ago (edited)

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Hello to my fellow Hivians and members of the TradFi community,

I apologize in advanced if this post comes off a bit pretentious. I am trying to run this community like a "tight ship" and want it to be an exceptional community to read posts and comment in. I am trying to stop spam, highly repetitive content, and AI content.

So the TradFi community has grown faster than I expected. There are some things I want to touch on first and then we can get into the weeds on what kind of content "should" be posted.

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First, TradFi Community is not meant to be a copy of how other communities typically work on HIVE. I want to do something different.

Things that are different with TradFi vs other communities:

  1. This is not an open community. I will pick who can be a member and who can be an author. I will remove people from time to time as well.
  2. This is not meant to be a community where people make blog posts daily (with some exceptions).
  3. We have 2 types of members. (1) Authors (Blog Content Creators) and (2) Commentors (Comment Content Creators)
  4. Authors are encouraged to engage with "good" comments.

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Before we get into guidelines, let's try to get a better idea of what "Traditional Finance" means.

Definition of Traditional Finance (using Google's AI):
"Traditional finance (TradFi) is the established, centralized financial system using institutions like banks, stock exchanges, and insurers, operating under government regulations to manage money, loans, investments, and payments, relying on intermediaries to facilitate transactions. It's the familiar system where you trust central authorities and third parties to handle your assets, unlike decentralized finance (DeFi) which uses code and blockchain without central control."

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Source Google AI

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Below is my attempt at "guidelines." The guidelines of the TradFi community will change overtime.

Topics that are 100% ok to cover:

  1. *Stocks (I will provide a list of stocks at the bottom of this post that are good examples).
  2. Bonds (Corporate Debt, government bonds, etc)
  3. Corporate finance concepts (For ideas on this, I recommend reading about Aswath Damodaran who is about as famous as a finance professor can get 😅)
  4. Textbook style Economic posts (@angeluxx's TradFi posts are fantastic examples of this)

Topics that are "not ok" to cover:

  1. Personal finance
  2. Cryptocurrency
  3. Precious metals
  4. Technical analysis
  5. Options or futures trading

Topics that are sometimes "ok" to cover (These are grey areas):

  1. The commodities Silver, gold, bitcoin (when something news worthy happened).
  2. Current Economic events
  3. Current financial news

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1. Whitelisted Authors/ Blog Posters (Not in any particular order):
• borsengelaber
• wiseagent
• cajiro
• gungunkrishu
• rimurutempest
• blkchn
• dd1100
• yusmelys
• angeluxx
• solominer

(If you are not white listed as an author and your post a blog post to TradFi, I will handle this on a case by case basis. Ideally, you will ask me before you start posting in here).

2. Whitelisted Comment Content Creator - If you are a member of the community you are considered a Comment Content Creator in the community.

What is a "Comment Content Creator"?
So "Comment Content Creators" are important to any community imo. They provide good questions or perspectives with comments. They say things that the author of the post can engage with. Engagement is very important to me. I care more about the quality of engagement.

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Update to my curation practices within TradFi
I am going to start curating this community "better." I will curate comments more based on the quality of the comment going forward.

Things I will look at when curating:
• Are you a "good" stakeholder? Typically I reference KE ratio for this. I like to curate people under 2 KE and I really like to curate people under 1 KE.
• Is your post or comment "interesting?" (Does your content make other users think?)
• Do you engage with people in the comments?

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*A "good" list of stocks that can be covered are on the CBOE website. Please scroll down to "Available Weeklys - Equity"
https://www.cboe.com/available_weeklys/

This is a list of stocks that have weekly options in US stock market. I reference this list for my own research and investing. I DO NOT trade options like I trade investments. Options are hedging tools. Options are also a way to easily lose a lot of money so I do not recommend trading options. The number 1 rule to options and futures is do not trade options or futures. I like this list of stocks because they are "popular" stocks primarily based on their trading activity.

Also, as I said above, if you are generally interested in Traditional Finance, I recommend reading about Aswath Damodaran. He provides a lot of his research and education materials for free. Please Note - To the people who are big into conspiracy theories... no... I am not Damodaran 🤣

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I sometimes get feedback that I am not super clear on what I want in my posts. There is a life hack to this.... You can ask me me things in the comments 😉

Cheers,

Hurt

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1 Question) Can we talk about bonds, stocks, funds that are not U.S based? For example: Brasilian stocks, funds, bonds...

2 Question) Like you commented in the my last post about economy, if we can mix current economy situation with "Textbook style Economic" is it OK? That would considered a Gray post or an economic style post?

3 Question) If I may ask why not consider for example personal finance and economy posts? Understanding of personal finance can help people save more money and manage it better to then use in stocks, bonds... And the understanding of economy helps then allocating their money, and change it during crises moments. (PS: Just wanted to know your opinion)

  1. Yes please! I just provided an example of a list of stocks I look at (based on my own investing criteria, different people will have different investments they pursue).

  2. Yea your post was an awesome post but just fell into a grey area. There are things you can do to take a grey area post and make it apply to the community. Like add a textbook style to it showing a math example of how it plays out in economics. Or list some publicly traded companies that were impacted (impacted in a good or bad way) and explain how they were impacted. These are still guidelines and I’m happy to provide more examples.

  3. (The way I’m thinking about it) Personal finance refers to money management habits to individuals. Economy refers to broad based economy that do not include TradFi specific topics.

  1. That's interesting, because it's another area I'm interested, but Idk much about U.S Stock Market. 🤔

  2. Understood.

  3. Understood.

I appreciate all the understood. It feels constructive 😆

Yeah. 😅

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Feel free to follow up on any of my points. There is a lot going on in our bulletin points🔥🔥🔥🔥 😆

I'll try to make a post next week about the nº1. It'll be interesting to see what the community member think about some other market assets...

I'm excited to read it!

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Getting a clear view of what you expect from the posts actually make it easier for writers and also to readers. Imagine someone entering a community and don't knowing what are the do's and don'ts, keep trying, receiving no comments, no attention and none telling what the can do to progress.

I really appreciate you taking some time to help with the guideline posts and comments :)

Also another "If I may ask question", this is actually what you would expect other communities do, right?

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I don’t have expectations for other communities. I think we all have different interests and objectives so I wouldn’t want to project what we are doing onto other communities.

That being said, if there is something we do that “works,” I really don’t care if people “copy” some of the things we are trying out. I’m all for friendly competition! 😄

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I tried to reach out to you on Discord to get more info, but I think we all know what happened there... :) My content is too all over the place to be an author, but the comment curator thing has me curious. I honestly didn't know what TradFi was until I read your post, but I have been dealing with investments on the traditional side for a while not. Not at your level of course. Anyway, happy to see you haven't totally given up on HIVE.

Ha sorry about the discord thing. I really don’t use discord much anymore anyways.

Yea I’m trying to curate comments and not just posts. I think that makes sense mainly because comments are themselves content.

Who is a “comment content creator” is super subjective. Basically I just pick people who are interested and leave good comments. 😅

You already leave good comments in TradFi so I’ll add you as a member if that sounds good to you?

I'd love that. I think in a different life I probably should have been an accountant. I don't understand all the fancy terms or some of the more complex concepts, but I enjoy talking about stocks and mutual funds. I've got a pretty decent though conservative portfolio I have grown over the years. I'm not sure I have the chops to write content, but commenting is something I definitely can do.

Conservative portfolios are under rated... especially in crypto world 🤣

But conservative portfolios tend to do the best over long periods of time; so kudos to you on maintaining that discipline which is definitely not easy for everyone.

Anyways, I’m super excited to see you become a member. It’s been a weird/awesome 3-4 months to say the least and I’m glad we are still friendly and it’s pretty epic people are interested in the TradFi community.

Have you seen those commercials lately where they talk about "boring" investing and how boring is good. I can't remember who it is for, but I totally get it. Even when people were talking about crypto changing the world and all other forms of investment falling to the wayside, I was never willing to give up my traditional investments. They just keep plugging along in the background earning 8% to 12%. You were always pretty clear that it was never anything personal, so I was never too worried about it!

Yea I know what commercials you are talking about. It's usually true.

Those commercials remind me of this bet Warrent Buffet did with some hedge funds lol https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/030916/buffetts-bet-hedge-funds-year-eight-brka-brkb.asp

The bet showed that hedge funds are not as high performers as people think 🤣

Can't argue with the GOAT!

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Thank you mr. Damodoran Jr. Sir. I am whitelisted and i hope its not a bad thing! Like written one of the noisy in the classroom.😁

It's only a bad thing if you are a jelly bean. 😆

P.S. Damodoran Jr. sounds very prestigious but I prefer Santa Hurt 😄

Owkei.. we stick to santa hurt. untitled.gif

🤣

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I'm going to frame this and show it to my teachers at school.

Thanks for mentioning me, it makes me so happy, you're awesome @hurtlocker 🙃

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😅👏🏻 Great compliment. I had a look myself and they are really good indeed. Well done!

jejje gracias

Thanks you

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Jjjeeee Congratulations @angeluxx I'll be watching your posts to learn.

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I want to frame this comment too 😊

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Question - Can one talk about the basics of finance, from simple money rules to building long term wealth, without overcomplicating things?

I think it’s ok to make things complicated 😅

Your most recent post is really good but it does fall into a grey area because it’s personal finance in nature.

Definition of personal finance from google AI - “Personal finance is the strategic management of an individual’s or household's monetary resources, including budgeting, saving, investing, and protection against risk. It involves planning for short-term needs and long-term goals—such as retirement or education—while managing income, taxes, and debt.”

We already had quite a few personal finance posts not just from you. I’m more thinking that content got repetitive and it makes more sense to cover different topics.

Posts like this are more what I was thinking for TradFi - https://peakd.com/hive-146620/@gungunkrishu/stock-market-101-my-first-high-value-stock-purchase-dixon-technologies-what-next

You had a post on risk and returns I thought was really good too.

OK. Makes sense. Need to exclude posts that are more of personal finance. Thank you for giving the pointers. Much appreciated. Cheers

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Greetings, my friend, I am grateful for this post that clarifies many things; however, before posting any topic in the community, I will first consult with you.

I will review the points in your post. You have given us some interesting guidelines. Thank you very much.

Thank you! If you have any recommendations for guidelines changes I'm always open to feedback. Like I said in the post, the guidelines will change in the future too and I'll make those changes based on community feedback 😄

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Which BTC are you talking about?

https://coinmarketcap.com/es/currencies/purple-bitcoin/ I already bought Purple BTC on the Solana network. Now I just have to remember not to use it to pay for pizza and wait a few years.

🤣 not purple bitcoin

Just the normal one 😄

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👍🏻 Will have a look at Damodaran. Never heard of this guy before although I am reading and listening to a lot of stuff and have more than a decade of TradFi erperience.

He appears on some of the finance cable shows sometimes. I mainly know about him because he provides a lot of his stuff for free on the educational side.

Found him! 👍🏻

Awesome! Enjoy his work. He has so much info out there, it's like drinking from a firehouse 😅

Yes I saw very many interesting books of him already. Stock valuation etc

I haven’t got too deep into any of his books. He is a good professor imo though because he seems to be really passionate about teaching (vs just passionate about doing research).

In my case… he provides so much free information online that I’ve basically been a student of his for years and I’ve literally never met him before 🤣

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Excellent guidelines that give us direction and greater focus in terms of what we want to achieve through this community. There is no doubt that through it we can continue and improve the work we are already doing. Every strategy pursues a goal, and I am glad that in your case you perceive the growth of the community with pleasure and amazement 😎

I have been pleasantly surprised with how good things are going!

Thank you for the positive reaction to the guidelines! I was trying to come up with exact rules but realized it is not practically possible because there are lot of grey areas.

For instance, when bitcoin hits and all time high again, I hope people post about it in TradFi. But I do hope people ask the "why" when posting. For example, when bitcoin hits an all time high in the future, why did it hit an all time high?

The "why" is where the money is in my opinion 😊

Overall, I think these guidelines cover and explain a lot. As for Bitcoin, I understand the idea, which is that beyond the facts, there is always a lot of material to work with in terms of the reasoning and the reasons behind it.

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Thanks for this heads up, @hurtlocker.

Good to have guidelines for the community. I never heard about Damodaran so will try to learn about him. Stock market is like an Ocean and learning is never enough to be a Pro.

I actually really liked your IPO post. I just unmuted it and gave you an upvote 😃

It was a good post so I’m adding you to the author whitelist if that’s cool with you? 😎

Yes please add me to the whitelist. Thank you so much.

Thank you! 😎 🔥🚀🌕

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Thanks for the update on the whitelist and the curation rules. It's good to know that quality questions and perspectives in the comments are being valued just as much as the blog posts themselves.

Thank you for the feedback! In my opinion, quality discussions add a lot of value to a post.

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It sounds good to me, likewise it won't become a shitshow community with every kind of post expecially the "my finance goals, my investments" and such

Would it be fine to post the "ups and down" of share prices of companies relative to some events? Like I'm checking Ubisoft shares, and I'd like to make a post about it, if I'm allowed to

Yea trying to avoid a community that is super broad 😅

Would it be fine to post the "ups and down" of share prices of companies relative to some events? Like I'm checking Ubisoft shares

Yea that's a great example of a post. For sure you are allowed to post (I will add you to the whitelist 🙂)! Thanks for asking first!

Cheers! I'll write it today!

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Thank you for the good news, for the moment, I will comment in your community, later perhaps I will write, thank you for the rules, so far I see them as clear and precise.

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Excellent, my friend. It seems I understand all the rules, regulations, and guidelines. For now, I'll be in the commentator category. I'll try my best. Good luck to everyone.

It's flexible. Input will always be valued!

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Okay, thank you for this detailed information. After joining the community, I saw my name in the members list, so I thought I was a member and could publish posts. That's why I worked very hard today to write a detailed post on an important topic, based on my own investing journey and experiences, and published it. But as soon as it was published, it got muted.

I mostly only add people I’ve met on chain that engage with me. You didn’t follow the rules before posting so I don’t think this community is going to be a good fit.

Okay, I understand! :)
I thought it's a community like many other for investors. Thank you for clearing up my doubts. Wishing you incredible success on your investments! 😊🙏🏼

Where are you seeing you are a member?

This screenshot is from the Members section of the top menu on your community page. Here, I've highlighted your active authors with a checkmark, and my username is highlighted in a rectangular box below. All of these users are listed in the Members section.

No lies, sir! :)

Looks like you are a subscriber not a member.

A subscriber in the members section.
How would someone know they are not a member when their name is on the members list? This is just an innocent question.
And surely, neither you nor anyone else would have seen that post after it was muted, but that doesn't mean I posted something random on a pointless topic without putting in any efforts.

You have your rules, that's fine, but how will a common user know that even though they are on the member list, they might not actually be a member?

The subscribers is not a members list.

This is not an open community so it’s not for the common user.

If someone has questions that can always ask me in the comments. I’m trying to avoid AI content (outside of pictures with sources) and people using tools to write their posts.

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