You need to be specific in what it is you mean by "Hive Engine is a joke" in terms of functionality that you need.
My experience with Hive Engine has been very good for many years. The trust assumption there isnt to my liking, which Magi does solve, but Hive Engine has given birth to many great projects over the years.
And for the V4V mention what is the functionality that gives you the "real world usefulness". It would be easier to address your needs if you could specify them exactly.