Time Value of Money

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Time Value of Money is one of the most important concepts when it comes to finance. Oddly enough, Time Value of Money is an ancient concept while also being one of the least understood concepts in modern society. I am guessing the concept probably predates text. At a minimum, the concept dates back to at least 500 CE in The Talmud. I am not Jewish or a religious scholar so I am not going to speak to what The Talmud says, I just wanted to point out how old the Time Value of Money concept is.

The modern version of Time Value of Money is not just a concept but we have a mathematical formula to help understand it. I have mentioned in another blog post many financial concepts are very old and cannot be patented. I have learned about these concepts with text books and using online resources. Typically the online resources are "better," in my opinion, because the online resources are more concise and usually free. This resource from investopedia.com on Time Value of Money is pretty good but a little too concise - https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/timevalueofmoney.asp

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So to start off, the concept of Time Value of Money is the idea that money is worth more today than it is worth at some point in the future. This is obviously true in modern society because of the way Fiat currency works, but currency debasement is a very different discussion that I will save for another day.

So for this discussion, assume Fiat currency is backed by something and does not lose value overtime. Let's assume $1 is backed by gold and is always worth $1.

In this instance, saying $1 today is worth more than $1 in the future sounds crazy. However, when you think about Opportunity Costs, $1 being worth more today than $1 in the future makes a lot of sense.

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So what is an Opportunity Cost? Opportunity Cost as a concept is kind of confusing. Most economists assume people naturally pick the best option based on Opportunity Costs. I do not believe that is true and I am not sure how it can be proved that people naturally do this for things that are "complicated." An Opportunity Cost is what you give up when you make one decision over another decision. We could have a whole post just on Opportunity Costs. @angeluxx, you may consider writing about Opportunity Costs for the TradFi community given your interest in economics. If people want to dig more into Opportunity Costs this resource is pretty good - https://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/opportunitycost.asp

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So to recap the above:

  1. Time Value of Money is the idea that $1 today is worth more than $1 in the future. (This is "true" even if assuming Fiat currency debasement does not exist).
  2. Opportunity Cost is what you give up when you make one decision over another decision.
  3. Time Value of Money is primarily true because Opportunity Costs are very real.
  4. There is a modern formula for understanding Time Value of Money.

Side Note - What is weird... you cannot even clearly credit anyone who made the current formula for Time Value of Money. You could literally write a whole book about Time Value of Money.... it would just be really boring so I doubt anyone who who has written a book about Time Value of Money ever became famous 🤣

Here is the current formula from the Investopedia article I referenced above:

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https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/timevalueofmoney.asp

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So, I cannot tell you what the Time Value of Money IS, but I can tell you what my Opportunity Cost is if I give someone an interest free loan rather than investing in a government bond (investing in a government bond is basically loaning the government money).

Please assume the following for this example:
• Fiat currency debasement does not exist.
• I give someone an interest free loan of $1000 for 2 years.
• The person I loan money to will pay me back and pay me back on time.
• Rather than loaning someone $1000, I could have bought a $1000 A rated government bond that pays an interest rate of 3%.
• This A rated government bond pays monthly (there will be 12 payments in 1 year).
• Assume A rated government bonds are "risk free" (This is not a safe assumption in today's society but that is a conversation for a different day).

The formula we are using for this example is Future Value = Present Value (1 + Interest rate / Number of compounding periods per year)^(Number of compounding periods per year * Number of years)

The Future value of the interest free loan = $1000 (1 + 0/1 )^(1*2)
• (1 * 2) = 2
• 1 + 0/1 = 1
• 1^2 = 1
• $1000 * 1 = $1000

Future Value of a 2 year interest free loan = $1000

The Future Value and the Present Value are the same in this case. It is $1000.

The Future Value of the government bond is = $1000 (1 + 3%/12 )^(12*2)
• (12 * 2) = 24
• 1 + 3%/12 = 1.0025
• 1.0025^24 = 1.061757
• $1000 * 1.061757 = $1061.757

Future Value of investing $1000 into a 2 year government bond, with a 3% interest rate, and 12 payments a year = $1061.757

In summary, I will make $61.757 less if I give the $1000 loan for free rather than buying a government bond.

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For the TradFi community I am going to start with "simple" concepts first before we go down how to value TradFi style investments. Some of what I will cover in the TradFi community will help in crypto but most of the models used in Traditional Finance fall short. Some context, I have been trying to figure out how to value HIVE for 2 years and I have no idea; I basically gave up 🤣.... for now 😉

Happy New Year and please consider stopping by my TradFi community here - https://peakd.com/c/hive-143901/created

You must request membership on chain and I will tell you if we have any openings based on what you want to write about. If your KE is over 2, I likely will not include you but it never hurts to ask.

If someone else wants to write about Time Value of Money to help them learn they should do it! Feel free to use the picture I made with Copilot as I made it for the TradFi community.

Good luck in life and good luck on HIVE! Cheers!

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The concept of the time value of money, as you say, is based on the idea that a dollar today is worth more than a dollar in the future. The reason is that that dollar can generate a return until we reach that future point in time we're valuing.

I think that to talk about the time value of money, a risk-free rate should be used. Otherwise, we'd be considering the risks of the business in addition to the time value of money.

In the example of the 2-year interest-free loan, at least that time value of money is being lost. Remember that we're not considering inflation or other factors (including the possibility of default).

That's because we're only looking at the time value of money. When we value using discounted cash flows, risks and inflation will be considered in the model, and the calculation will become more complex.

You are right the “risk-free rate” is the best metric for understanding time value of money.

I think the “risk-free rate” today is more risky than it used to be so I have a hard time calling it risk free. That’s probably a me problem more than anything 🤣

I will have to use the risk free rate when we go through a DCF. I am not looking forward to it because calling any government bond risk free may not go over well in crypto world 😆

US bonds are often considered risk-free. Although they also carry risk, the US is the most indebted country in the world. Other countries have a country risk premium, which is the difference in interest rates they pay compared to the US.

I would argue US bonds are used as the risk free rate for lack of a better metric.

In theory you could adjust US bonds for the level of default risk but that adjustment itself would be very subjective.

People have tried to come up with better metrics like "swap rates" but they all fall short IMO.

A risk free rate is not real but neither are the models that use risk free rates. These things are only us trying to apply logic to reality which is often not logical.

In Argentina, the only thing that can be considered risk-free is investing in stock market guarantees. They've always paid out, even during times of economic collapse.

And those rates tend to fluctuate wildly.

Do you have a link I can reference for this? I would like to review it please.

Thanks either way!

Thank you sir!

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I one time had an interest free three year plan on on all house equipment, just before the massive covid inflations. Saved around 40% due to inflation in poland

Anytime I get interest free / promotional loans I try to use them. Nice to see you benefit so much and get ahead of the inflation.

Inflation in the US has been rough. Like food is so expensive now I rarely eat out anymore. I eat 20 cent ramen for a snack most days 😅

I used to eat out all the time but the food is now worse and more expensive.

Health is even more expensive also reduces mental clarity.

Just go for oatmeal rice halve cows and whatever veggies you

That's a great way to explain why cash is king. Very clear and easy to understand.

Thanks!

Thanks! And thanks for stopping by 😊

Would you rather have $10 now, or $10 in a month? Regardless of how you would use the $10, having it now is preferable. It count be invested. It could pay bills. It could buy a nice cup of coffee and a donut. None of your choices would affect the time reference.

Opportunity costs are easily understood if you have to fund projects and make hard budget choices, but the more important application for many conversations is part of Bastiat's broken window fallacy in my opinion.

Some people condemn both lending/borrowing at interest and investing for interest. Like you said, inflation distorts future value even more, but time preference and risk plus wider market supply and demand for investment funds should rationally be part of the price calculation of our consideration.

Some people condemn both lending/borrowing at interest and investing for interest.

I know a lot of different religious groups condemn it. Usually it is in the context of lending to other people (rather than the government). I am not a religious scholar though so I don't want to get into the weeds on what certain text means. People who are close to me in real life I usually just give them money rather than a loan. I would rather not have family or friends owe me anything. If I have a friend that needs a loan, they probably aren't going to be able to easily pay me back anyways. Usually it makes more sense to give willingly vs trying to charge interest to a friend.

Bastiat's broken window fallacy

I actually never learned about this or forgot it. Nice to read a different perspective on opportunity costs while drinking some coffee. 😊 I hope someone tries to write about Bastiat's broken window fallacy one day (Not saying you should but just anyone).

Cheers!

I also have strong opinions about lending to the government. They can only repay the loan by taxation or inflation. Plunder is not an honest way to gain wealth, whether directly or by proxy. When I was a librarian, I justified my job by recognizing that government had usurped and monopolized a service the community still needed, but government bonds are straight-up piracy.

Country risk is applied to government bonds. Higher risk means higher yields are demanded.
Governments generally overspend and issue bonds to finance spending and investments. Sometimes these bonds are used to pay interest on existing debt or to meet upcoming maturities. They can also be issued in foreign currency to obtain foreign exchange to mitigate a balance of payments imbalance.
The idea that it's best to avoid a deficit, as the president of Argentina seems to think, is absurd. What would he do if a deep recession hit? To balance the budget, would he close hospitals or lay off members of the armed forces?

Credit expansion is the chief cause of recessions, not the cure. Long-term stability requires savings, not debt. Inflating the money supply erodes value from savers and transfers it to borrowers and lenders instead. If we want to fix the systemic problems of global economies, we need less government manipulation and more market transparency instead.

Capitalism involves two things: first, economic cycles, and second, the system adjusts itself periodically through major crises.

"Capitalism" as you use the term appears to be an undefined bogeyman rather than a concrete principle or defined economic system. There is nothing about private property or market pricing which necessitates a boom/bust business cycle or other crises. However, there is a significant correlation between credit expansion (fractional reserve lending and government debt alike) and cycles of malinvestment followed by a correction.

When government sets prices for debt, it works like any other price control, shifting how people forecast their investments and business ventures. To borrow an analogy, it's like an architect building a house with an inflated forecast of brick availability. The market process of prices will signal the architect of current stocks, and brick producers of current demand, allowing both to work toward an equilibrium. Government inflation and interest rate manipulation instead cloud reality as long as possible, forcing the architect and builders to change at the last minute, perhaps not realizing the reality until suddenly supply is gone altogether.

This even literally happens with the "skyscraper curse," a cycle where people begin massive construction projects when artificially low interest rates signal high savings rates in the economy, which would normally suggest latent demand for business expansion. However, by the time the new record-setting towers reach their "topping out" phase, the absence of real savings tends to be revealed, and demand for the project evaporates. Hell, I was working as a draftsman for an architectural firm building the biggest tower in a small town, which topped out in 2008.

This cycle is a consequence of government policy, not market volatility. "Greed" and "capitalism" don't offer any real explanatory power, but economic intervention does. Hyperinflation is a phenomenon of central bank failure, not market failure. The cure for the crisis is not a new bunch of bureaucrats trying to run society.

I think government bonds are not inherently good or bad. I think the way they are structured today is pretty close to piracy.

Selling "low" interest bonds and inflating the currency just ruins people who live paycheck to paycheck and makes poverty worse imo.

It also keeps interest rates artificially low which is only good for business until they need to raise interest rates. On net I think it is worse for everyone involved. Fiat as it exists today is relatively new and I think it becomes more obvious by the day it is not all sunshine and rainbows.

I am not sure what the answer is. If everyone woke up tomorrow and stopped buying government bonds I am fairly convinced everything would collapse and society would turn into Mad Max or Fallout or something 😅

I think if fiat money collapsed, we would see a fairly swift resumption of silver as commodity money, but I live fairly close to the Idaho panhandle silver country where mining and mounting are already established and rural people already tend to think libertarian-leaning ways about money and trade. Urban centers reliant upon government largesse might well collapse.

Urban centers reliant upon government largesse might well collapse.

Yea for sure. Urban Centers are very not natural and propping them up creates a lot of downstream consequences. That is why food is so bad in the US because they need to pump it with preservatives to get it to last so long. Weird times we live in but it is nice to see people start to realize there are better ways to live.

I am more libertarian leaning myself but there are not a whole lot of good options when it comes to politics. We are not going to fix the political system anytime soon. Guessing when/if we get some younger people in politics things will get a little better but who knows lol

You leave good comments. I only upvote members with the TradFi-Curator account (It is not a normal curation project because I just fund it myself and do not pay any APR and DO NOT upvote delegators)

I actually upvoted you with it on accident just cause your comments are good and I assumed you were a member lol. Let me know if you want me to add you as a member and I will get that done today.

Cheers!

I don't tend to engage with much in the finance sphere, and tend to write primarily about fiat money versus precious metals, not stocks and bonds, but if you think any of that would fit the community, I'd consider joining. I'm working on a followup to a post I wrote last year about silver and the US dollar.

Members can just comment, they do not need to post by any means.

I don't tend to engage with much in the finance sphere

I think you have engaged quite a bit so I think you would be a good fit. You fall under into the "Comment Content Creator" description imo 😊

I'm working on a followup to a post I wrote last year about silver and the US dollar

If you can point to the post I will read it and let you know if it works here. (We had a member write about BITO which is a bitcoin futures based ETF and that was a good fit to post in here)

I edited the comment with a hyperlink.

Yea that post would be a good fit to post in TradFi community!

When I say no precious metals content, I just don’t want people to post “look at what silver I bought today” or “look at the price of silver” type of content.

What you posted is more about macroeconomic trends.

A little heavy on the Trump thoughts but that’s just me personally. I guess what people think of Trump is relevant but I’m not sure we will ever know the “truth” about politics or war because history is written by the winners.

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As for Hive… 1 HIVE = 1 HIVE 😅

PS: Time being worth money or the other way round is indeed an important insight when dealing with both of them.

Time is a VERY undervalued "resource" in my opinion. "Time is money" well not literally, but that is something people say 😊

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Good luck with the new community. Unfortunate, not my cup of tea. When I do post about financials, it is gambling or how I try to save more money then I spend. That last one it for some reason in some months harder then it looks.

The best investment we made, was buying or house and have a fixed mortgage. Then money we do pay now, has less value then we did start paying of the debt. 5 more years to go and then we are mortgage free. Only 60 down payments and more or less each payment is cheaper by the month.

When I read the title, I was thinking that the article would be about the time investigated to earn money. More or less a ROTI (Return On Time Investment) if that does exist. Because then I do suck at it, certainly here on Hive :)

how I try to save more money then I spend

I mean I think that meets the rules to post in here. There are a lot of rules though so idk without seeing the post.

Only 60 down payments and more or less each payment is cheaper by the month.

Congrats! I think refinancing is overrated and most people would be better off with less debt. Debt is stressful, it's like a 2nd job managing it if you have a lot so I try to be careful when I take loans myself (even if the loan makes financial sense it does not always make sense for my sanity lol).

Return on Time Invested (ROTI) sounds like what you are referring to. But that is less technical and more subjective. You could apply your implied hourly rate to what you do and see if it is worth it vs working more. But most people are limited to how much they work and having fun is valuable even if we cannot put a price tag on the fun part of our experience.

Present Value and Future Value just helps you make decisions between investment decisions. I am not sure there is a lot of value on Return on Time Invested unless you are using it to see if you are wasting time. But wasting time is very subjective. Work hard play hard is a saying for reason. What is the point of making money if we never enjoy it? (That is rhetorical of course 😊). Nice seeing you here, hope you have a good week!

Comment Content Creators are welcome to apply for membership by the way. You leave good comments so I think you would be a good fit if you enjoy leaving these comments.

Cheers!

I indeed can comment in that community and see if it does give me some ideas for a post.

Have a great week!

I can add you as a member so at least you are eligible for TradFi-Curator upvotes on your comments. Just let me know if you want to be added!

I think we are limited to 100 members in the community so I do not just add people for this reason. Also, I do not just add anyone.... even if they are a whale 😊

Let’s give it a shot and add me.

Wahoo!

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I've tried explaining this to most of my staff before, albeit in the form of their "Bonuses Disbursements".

Interestingly, almost of all them preferred a lump sum end of year payout instead of taking half in the midyear and another half at the end of the year. No penalties, still the same amounts, but they were afraid of spending it all at once instead of having the company "save" it for them.

Had a pretty long discussion trying to tell them that it was more advantageous to take the bird in hand, and then dump it in a HYSA to earn some interest on it, even if they were risk adverse and did not want to enter the stock market.

The lesson from all this? Clearly not everyone is "A Rational Economic Man" as we've learnt in Econs 101.

Clearly not everyone is "A Rational Economic Man" as we've learnt in Econs 101.

There are different schools of thought. Some economists will "die on that hill" and are convinced people do the "right" things subconsciously. I don't think that is true even if you have a high education.

I do think most people are impulsive when it comes to spending money. Some people have a really hard time not spending and I get it. I love spending money hehe

Thanks for the real world example. It makes the conversation way more interesting!

Cheers!

Oh I definitely do not think there is any one completely "correct" answer.

Taking everything right now, if there aren't any benefits of a delayed pay out, is the correct move TO ME.

It did come as a surprise that a lot of people saw it as a form of "enforced disciplined savings". In that sense, if their uncontrollable impulses would have squandered it all away, leaving nothing for their end of year financial commitments, I could see why that would be the preferred option instead.

I just find it interesting that a big group of people, even in the same working environment, can come up with very different answers. It helps to open one's mind instead of being stuck in our own echo chambers within our own social groups. 🤔

Yea echo chambers are usually pretty bad. Never heard of a good echo chamber 😆

It is interesting they use it as a forced form of savings. Seems risky if they plan to retire one day without being able to control their spend 😅

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Intresting topic...Time Value of Money and as you mentioned would be I intresting to know or have some thought around Time Value of #HIVE.. I will be doing more reading on this topic Time Value of Money and see if I put my understanding into a simple blog post.. Thank you for sharing.. Cheers

Good luck on the post! Glad you think it is interesting 😊

Just remember no crypto even if about HIVE. I appreciate that is an annoying rule but I am just trying to run a tight ship out the gates so we can keep this community on brand.

If something may not meet the rules you can always ask me or worst case I will just mute it in TradFi but likely still upvote it with my main account.

I hope you have a great week! Cheers!

This is an interesting topic. Now, if you were asked this question: Would you rather have $1,000 today or $1,100 in a year? Or would you rather have $1,000 today or $2,000 in a year? I think very few people would choose $2,000 in a year. They would want to get that $1,000 today. For many people, making an immediate investment or meeting immediate needs is much more important than thinking about the future. Everyone dreams of doubling their money in a year, but when it comes to immediate cash, I'm not so sure. I hope I've managed to convey what I mean.

It also does depend on the situation. If you are able to wait on the money and don't need it immediatly the 2K has the preference. But if you do need to money, you probably aren't in a situation in which you can invest money into things.
And yes 1000 now, due to inflation, would be a lot less than 2K in a year.

It also varies depending on the country you live in. Not in dollar terms, but if you think in your own currency, it is very likely that 1,000 Turkish lira today has more buying power than 2,000 Turkish lira a year from now.

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Yea I would take the $1,000 today over the $1,100 in a year but I would take the $2,000 in a year over the $1,000 today. Worst case I take a $1,000 loan with an compounded interest rate that is lower than 100% and just wait for the $2,000 to get here.

To your point though, everyone is different and what people do is dependent on their individual circumstances. Like if someone needs food or they want to start a business today they could care less about the $2,000 in a year.

I think you conveyed it well! Thanks for stopping by!

You're right, $2,000 makes much more sense, but especially in my country, people think they can make better use of that $1,000 and earn more. Most of the time they don't succeed, but that's how they think :D

I think a lot of people think that way 🤣

May just be a human thing. Hubris with greed is one hell of a drug LOL

I absolutely agree. When it comes to money and investments, many people are very arrogant. It's the same in the stock market, with gold, and with crypto lol.

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I love your article, the story, and the links you provide; they'll help me do more research. You should be a teacher! 😁
In other words, I've been losing money all this time because I've lent money to my friends to buy sweets and they pay me back the same amount. And sometimes they don't even pay me back. And if I lend money and charge interest, would that be the same as with government bonds? Would I gain anything there?

they'll help me do more research.

That warms my heart but I am a bit of a nerd 🤓 LOL

In other words, I've been losing money all this time because I've lent money to my friends to buy sweets and they pay me back the same amount.

Yep basically; it is more correct to say you are losing out on the opportunity to make more money than if you never gave the loan in the first place. I mean that is why if you lend someone money and they do not pay back on time it is frustrating. Even if you do not understand why it is frustrating everyone can feel it. I mean one they didn't do what they said which is frustrating and also you are "losing" out on making more money.

And if I lend money and charge interest, would that be the same as with government bonds? Would I gain anything there?

I would argue loaning interest or non interest loans to friends is very dicey. Even banks loaning money to people is pretty messed up sometimes. I mean the bank is totally removed from the person and they HAVE to take "distressed" assets from people or the bank goes out of business. Banks go out of business all the time anyways and are mostly propped up by fiat money printing in my opinion.

Sorry at the rant at the end there lol. If you do a post on opportunity costs, I personally would come up with other examples outside of loaning interest to other people.

Good luck!

Okay, okay, I understand. I'll do some research for my post...it's exciting! If I have any questions, I'll ask you, okay? Thanks! untitled.gif

lol on the gif 😆

I'll ask you, okay? Thanks!

Please do!

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Fun to see this around! DCF method is one of the most accurate methods to calculate a larger investment opportunity - such as M&A (especially if you also weight in scenario and sensitivity analysis). Already 16 years ago that I got my masters in F&I - time flies haha.

Applying tradfi to crypto is very interesting, while in general I think it has larger limitations - I could also see in a big player ruled small cap it could work very well.

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Fun to see this around!

Thanks for the positive feedback. Who doesn't like a dose of positive feedback from time to time! I have had quite a few people go out of their way to say they are not interested in the community. Kind of odd because I do not go into other communities and say "I don't like this" 🤣

especially if you also weight in scenario and sensitivity analysis

Scenario and Sensitivity analysis is a lot of fun imo. Hard to articulate the "why" on investment decisions without getting the basics out of the way first. You brought up scenario and sensitivity analysis though so I guess you see where I am going 😅

Applying tradfi to crypto is very interesting, while in general I think it has larger limitations

I think we need different models for crypto and in some instances models are probably a waste of time. We could probably calculate HIVE's cost of capital though which is something I plan to do one day. They have already tried integrating some crypto stuff in the CFA (Chartered Financial Analyst) but I feel like what they added is not very helpful. It will get better I am sure. I do not have a CFA by the way, kudos to the people who endure that... sounds like hell LOL😆

I requested membership for the community

Don't threaten me with a good time (Panic at the Disco) 😉 You are added sir and thank you!

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Government bonds are the least priorities to investment. They are secure but stinky i mean stingy😝

No bond is 100% guaranteed; otherwise, we wouldn't talk about risk, we'd have certainty. Markets assume the US will pay, and other countries are charged a country risk premium.
Sometimes there are interesting bonds. A while ago, I bought one in Argentina that matured in two years, adjusted the principal for Argentine inflation, and had a 24% return. Depending on the circumstances, they can be excellent.

So true. Oh! 24% is really a good return. With this type of investments, the highest one I saw is 16%. Even with the inflation. Now they are back at 3% lol.

It was a pivotal moment. The market expected the Argentine president to lose the midterm legislative elections. Argentine assets had been trending downward for six months, a trend that intensified with the elections, and people also began buying dollars.
Milei received Trump's endorsement, won the election, and the markets celebrated—a shift in the trend.

ohh.. i guess you decided smartly and won the bet?

Yes. Now, if the president were to lose the elections, we would be in the deepest financial hell in Argentina.

i guess not. You are not in the deepest hell. we might claim it here in our country. philippines. you will never experience a flood control project that was government fully paid, inspected, QA/QCed but never existed. Well, there are already lots of issues on every country right now, so it really is hard to tell would be in the deepest financial hell. maybe we can form a group for it.

Lol you get what you pay for. Low risk usually does not pay very well 😆

High risk stuff goes to 0 all the time but we are in crypto so I think everyone knows that by now 😅

Yeah, safer smooth sailing investments are from bank and the government. Low risk and long term but stable. I might think crypto investment is just a gamble right now, this is just my opinion because maybe i never saw crypto as the currency used in making cities.

I think if something is a gamble or not a lot of times depends on how people approach it

Yes, and it depends on peoples point of view. And besides, crypto utilities must be understand by the investor before supporting it so there is clarity in their prospect.

Yea one thing that is tricky with utility in crypto is how to value utility. Not sure there is an easy answer for that. Seems the less bullish the users of a project the more utility projects "need".... but that could just be my anecdotal experience

It is almost the answer or nearest possible answer in my experience also, things needed to show its uses to get its value. This also applies in crypto. Little use, little amount to money, My personal opinion

I think a lot of projects in Crypto are essentially startups.

They tend to have a startup mindset which is just keep trying things until something sticks. Hard to do forever if things don't work because eventually the money train stops.

Crypto has had many bull markets already. I am guessing it will have more but predicting where capital is going to flow to is not easy.

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Hey friend, I wanted to tell you that I've been reading on Hive for a long time and I'd never seen such detailed information about opportunity costs. I understood it very easily. Sometimes I'm surprised by things we should know but don't. I intuitively knew that sometimes by choosing other options we miss out on other things if we had chosen the previous one, but I didn't know there was a term for it in finance. It's good to learn something new and very valuable to me. Cordial greetings

Thanks for the positive feedback! Nice to meet you!

It's also a pleasure, thank you.

So much math...

We are just getting started 😇

I imagine that if I had been born in the era when salt was the means of payment, besides having a high value, I would have been a great businessman. Maybe not.

I had never heard of the concept of opportunity cost. I don't know much about economics, but it was a little difficult for me to understand. Have a good day.

Trading really ain't my thing, so I'll pass, but it's always nice to see new communities emerging. Particularly those backed by significant HP, as they will likely stick around. Hope the content goes beyond the generic AI slop that has flooded the internet.

Oh, and Happy New Year!

Trading really ain't my thing

Same here. I mostly do investing over long periods.

I do make money sometimes with short term trading strategies but those opportunities come and go, but they blow up in my face sometimes too LOL 🤣

Happy New Year to you too!

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