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RE: Are we losing active users?

in #active12 days ago

I relate to a lot of this. Lately the frustration for me goes beyond price action. There is a growing feeling that Hive is less decentralized in practice than it is in theory. A lot of meaningful decisions still seem to be shaped by a very small number of large stakeholders. Even sitting at orca level, I often feel pretty powerless, which makes me wonder how dolphins or smaller accounts experience this system day to day.

That erosion of agency matters. It changes how invested people feel, especially when prices are down and the narrative of “build now, it pays off later” or when you join hive you are now a CEO… it all stops feeling credible.

I keep coming back to the idea that maybe Hive does not need to be for everyone. It seems we have been telling the same story for years and expecting a different outcome. What I would love to see is a small group of people who genuinely still care about HIVE get together and rethink how Hive is presented to the wider world. Less hype and trying to appeal to the masses. More leaning into the misfit side of Hive. Trying to find the people who are tired of main stream platforms and going for folks that care about owning their digital footprint and like building and being part of the weird corners of the internet.

If we keep repeating the same patterns, we should not be surprised if we keep shedding users. Breaking that cycle likely means embracing that Hive is niche, renegade, and not polite or tidy. That might be exactly what the next generation of Hiveans is looking for.
But what the fuck do I know. It’s just how i feel currently

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"There is a growing feeling that Hive is less decentralized..."

It is less decentralized. HF28 increased centralization, again.

"Trying to find the people who are tired of main stream platforms..."

Hive has advertised censorship resistance, and legacy platforms are becoming more censorious. TikTok is collapsing as it's users flee the new ownership and new censorship policies. None of those users is coming to Hive because Hive has long been more censorious that all the mainstream platforms. This is by design, because it centralizes stake, and that is the overriding interest of the oligarchy presently possessing a bare majority of stake that allows it to govern the platform by choosing the witnesses.

The bait and switch regarding censorship became well understood back in 2017, and there is essentially no market that isn't aware of it, so few undertake to onboard Hive.

This is why Hive is not growing, and why Hive will not grow until and unless that governance changes it's policies.

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Mm. Yeah, I feel you. The climb, even in these early days, feels pretty impossible. Part of the problem is, the whole "spend your time now and have faith" paradigm only works if you assume people have the basics of life taken care of.

Most people want to make enough to have a roof over their heads, food in their bellies, and the occasional treat. Until Hive can offer the masses this, it's not going to be a catching proposition.

Expecting newcomers to have faith in something that may or may not pay off ten years from now isn't exactly reasonable. Basically, unless you have a ton of money or talents specifically relevant to the platform (development), yeah, it's harder to make a small amount to sustain off of, let alone to save up.

I think telling people who are interested in the platform but are just barely getting by (that's most people at this point) might be turned off by "hey, just save up".

This might be part of the reason why Hive seems to be doing very well in non-western countries. The power of Hive to actually sustain these individuals and allow them to save is much, much higher.

Anyway, those are just my two cents.

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