Fanatical Envy

in Reflections24 days ago

Are you ever envious over what another has?

Last night at dinner, most people ordered what apparently they always order for a starter when at this restaurant, a lobster soup. However, I ordered a beef tartar dish and when the woman sitting opposite me found out, she said she might have "portion envy", as no matter how many times she visits this place, she checks the menu, tosses up between the tartar and the shrimp - but always gets the shrimp.

I can't speak to the soup, but the tartar was excellent.

All eight of us ordered the same main - pepper steak.

Also good.


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The ice hockey world championships are currently on (jointly hosted by Sweden and Denmark) and while I was watching the Finland-France game, it brought to mind a conversation I had just last night - that I am envious of fans. You know, the people who are willing to go to another country, paint their faces in team colours, and scream at the referee - regardless of the call. Or the people who know everything about their favourite boyband, or are crazy about motorsport. It isn't the face painting and throwing underwear on stage that I am envious of, it is that they care enough to even make the effort to look like fools for it. I don't think I have ever liked something that much.

Well, my wife.

I made myself look stupid often for her.

To be a true fan though, it has to come naturally, it can't be forced. Going through the motions isn't enough, there has to be that drive to want to go through the motions. I can dress up like an idiot and pretend to care, but that isn't the point, is it? To be a fan, you have to care, but I just don't care enough about anything to be fanatical over it.

Am I missing out?

I think so.

Like the person I was speaking about last night was a huge fan of Take That, the English boyband from the 90s - and she knew everything about them, had all the posters covering the walls of her bedroom, and new every lyric of their songs by heart. She lived and breathed with the band, but interestingly - never had the chance to go to one of their concerts. But this didn't lessen her fandom and perhaps, it made it stronger.

I am envious.

For her at that stage in her young life, the object of her obsession brought a huge amount of meaning to her, as well as built a large selection of tightly bundled memories around that time. In comparison, when I was at that age, my experiences and interest were a hodgepodge of random interactions with the world, not really taking any path, not really finding any direction I was interested in taking. Just wandering around. I don't know if I was lost, or just apathetic.

Just pathetic?

You know something funny? Pathetic these days means someone or something to pity, but originally it meant something that affects the emotions. So, this means that people whose emotions are easily moved, are pathetic. Apathetic on the other hand, means showing or feeling no emotion, enthusiasm or concern.

I might have been apathetic - now I am pathetic.

I feel like I am too old to become a fan of anything to the point I am fanatical, but I do wonder what that kind of interest in something really feels like. What is it like to feel passionate about who wins a sports game, or even who wins an election? What does it feel like to go to a concert for a band that you are fanatical about, singing along to and feeling every word?

Are you envious of anything?

Taraz
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I think there is a difference between being a fan and a fanatic and there is a very narrow line that people often realize they didn't cross. My brother in law is borderline fanatic. He won't allow his kids to wear certain shirts on game days because he thinks they are bad luck etc.

Yeah. The amount of celebrity stalkers is crazy. People are incredibly obsessive these days and it often turns into illness. I am not talking about "that fanatical" :D

He won't allow his kids to wear certain shirts on game days because he thinks they are bad luck etc.

For a sporting team, or a superstition in general, like black cats?

It's for a sporting team. He gets pretty crazy sometimes. I think he has mellowed out a bit as he has gotten older though.

Los gustos de cada quien son distintos y lo que apasiona a unos no es para otros, por ello el mundo es diverso, así lo creo Dios.

That's definitely True!

I think its ok to be envious a little, it can be your motivation. but too much envy is not good.

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I guess I am not a fan type. I liked to play sports and am very competitive but I never got passionate enough to be a fan.

I was never envious of anything with the exception of one time at an indoor children's play center when I was divorcing my first wife. I was there with my four year old son.

I was thinking all these families are happy and together and I have the looks, money, great career and I can't give my son a full family... I was envious of people who were together even those who looked poor and not very good looking.

Muchas veces pensamos que la riqueza esta en lo material y no es cierto, la familia es lo mas importante que tenemos, no se puede comprar el amor verdadero.

Many years ago, I asked a parish spiritual guide, “Is it envy to want to see like others, since I have never seen the world with the normal appreciation due to my visual impairment?” The spiritual guide replied, “It’s not envy, it’s wanting to be able to see well or understand how others see the world. That’s not called envy; rather, it’s an expression of longing, perhaps curiosity, or even frustration at not being able to experience something that other people take for granted. It’s completely human to want to know the world the way others know it.”

Envy, in its most common definition, involves an intense desire to have something that another person possesses, often accompanied by a feeling of resentment or inadequacy. But when someone desires something they’ve never had because of a disability, that is a legitimate desire for connection, understanding, and inclusion.

It’s normal to feel sadness, frustration, and even injustice in the face of certain limitations. But there is also room to appreciate how unique and special your way of perceiving the world is.

I am not, but I wish I would have it too if it is something I would like to have and I try my best to do/have it.

We have a good phrase for such a situation;

I do not envy you, may Good give you much more

😄

I have favorite movies and favorite actors, favorite music. But all this is quiet love. I had real passion in my 20+ years, when I was in love with my future wife.

You know, the people who are willing to go to another country, paint their faces in team colours, and scream at the referee - regardless of the call.

I think that you already are a fan(of crypto and Hive). I mean didn't you go to 1 or 2 hivefest? Sure that my not have involved painting your face but you are still taking the risk of at times looking a bit foolish by investing money in to projects you believe in. Like splinterlands yesterday.

Envy is one of my (apparently many) missing emotions and given how much problems it seems to cause I don't think I'm missing much in this case XD

I kind fo academically understand it I think but it's so much less effort to either be happy that they have it or...not care? I guess that's apathetic

I'm not much of a fan of anything either, just kind of addicted to animation I guess.

I envy those who find their spiritual path. I haven't met a lot of them, I think only one so far. He's not a fanatic who has to preach to everyone and posts his spirituality on social media, but someone who truly believes and works very hard to live up to his believes. He questions himself a lot, but never his believe.

I'm far away from that. I'm still collecting data. Maybe I don't even need a spiritual path, who knows. Maybe I don't envy him, but admire him for that.