RE: STEEM is still not Steemit, even if Tron buys Steemit.

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RE: STEEM is still not Steemit, even if Tron buys Steemit.

brianphobos in #tron • 5 years ago

I know that POLO is owned by Tron. That is why I'm saying that they will do the conversion and Binance would be another likely Exchange to do the conversion. HitBTC is a scam so I don't recommend it. It mainly leaves the Korean Exchanges. The point I'm trying to make is that if that is the direction things go and even if some well financed investors and a solid chunk of Witnesses want to continue the original chain it will be tough to get exchange support. I mean look at these projects like Telos. It is tough to get on Exchanges. There is a gate keeper and they want money. You know with AEON. It is tough to keep exchange support and enough liquidity.

Of course we don't want to fund scammers and people with no reputation here but tons of people jumped on the SPS right away and submitted proposals including myself. I'm not as technical as you but I'm not a slouch. But like everything here it is just a very small group of people who are going to to support each other and despite being on here since 2016 there was no modest support.
https://steemit.com/sps/@brianphobos/multi-player-2d-arcade-game-to-win-more-steem-steemgalaxy-com

Even if someone says that wasn't going to drive enough demand or wasn't complex enough...etc but it is a proof of concept that can be expanded on for a lot of arcade type games. But Nah.....

People just leave when there is no support. I mean Partiko couldn't even get support and their app is really solid. Share2Steem was cool but they couldn't get support so they peaced out.

About the desktop wallet. I think it is a good project but to be honest probably less than 1% of people are using that. I use Greymass and Sqrl but I never once used Vessel. Not that it wasn't a good project. I just didn't feel a need for it even when my account was worth $20,000+. Maybe that was lazy of me but we all go used to utilizing the browser interface and figured if there was an issue that we would notice something pretty quick and I never let a ton of liquid funds sit around.

Justin has money and is able to build the hype and in my opinion the premise that the trending page wasn't anything about engagement and completely based on stake weight left me scratching my head for 4 years. It wouldn't have been that hard to sit there and display posts that were stake weight based, amount of votes from accounts with at least 500 SP (to fight low powered bot voting), amount of votes by accounts with rep over 60, amount of comments by accounts with 55 rep or higher with 500 SP, .......etc Some combination that would be representative of stuff that was high engagement on trending. Not some bid bot orgy on trending. 4 years and it is like Steemit Inc never thought to change that ........ SAD

Most people weren't interested in investing into this system and I feel bad for people still waiting and talking about SMTs. They have been parroting the stuff for 3 years.

In the end I think some changes, marketing, and buzz will be good. That being said I don't have a big investment in this platform anymore because of the continued disappointments despite being the most well developed blockchain project.

It will be interesting what happens but almost always money talks and the majority of people will go along with the majority. I can see 'STEEM Classic' being like WhaleShares, Bearshares, or WEKU or something. Already people aren't really making anything significant spending time here. We can figure that the minority chain will likely be worth 10% of the majority chain or less. So if STEEM Classic ends up being $0.03 with little to no exchange support it will be like a handful of little mini whales trying to get over on each other and get out before they get burned like Golos.

We will see what happens over the next few weeks. It will be interesting for sure.

5 years ago in #tron by brianphobos

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smooth 5 years ago (edited)

You know with AEON. It is tough to keep exchange support and enough liquidity.

Funny you mention that. My experience is pretty much the opposite. We get new exchanges adding it all the time (not all listed on coinmarketcap) and the older exchanges want little other than reasonable support when needed, the wallet not using too many resources (Steem largely fails on this), etc.

I personally don't think it will be that hard for the existing Steem chain to keep sufficient exchange support (you don't need dozens of exchanges or millions/billion of dollars of fake volume unless you are trying to hype something) if people want to continue to use it.

I get it, you're a Tron fan and you're happy to see Steemit go that route. Fair enough. The way I see it, there are a good number of community members, stakeholders, app developers, and ecosystem participants who are not, at least not without more clarification about how it will work. Whether they are motivated to do anything about it, we will have to see.

tons of people jumped on the SPS right away and submitted proposals including myself

I guess that explains some sour grapes then. Nothing personal but I've never heard of you and I never heard of your proposal. If you or 'tons of people' expected SPS to be like the posting rewards where any idiot can almost frictionlessly milk rewards without a broad consensus of a significant part of the stakeholding base, then you misunderstood what SPS was supposed to do. It was and is supposed to support major projects of direct relevance broadly to the platform and its owners (stakeholders). Paying Steem core developers would certainly fall within that, even if lots of obscure proposals from lots of unknown people would not.

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brianphobos 5 years ago

I wouldn't say I'm a huge fan of Tron. I'm a bigger fan of Monero and Litecoin. Tron is like Ethereum to me. I hold a decent chunk because there is a lot of buzz about it and there are a lot of fan boys. I do have a larger stake in Tron than STEEM at this point because the writing was on the wall in my mind and I headed to higher ground.

As far as not knowing me or anything about the proposal I'm not upset or anything but in general people would have seen the proposal because the SPS was only out for like 4 or 5 days when I posted. I was one of the first and also had https://www.steemgalaxy.com/ which wasn't completely finished but showed people I had put in some level of work and also having the pictures of me as a mentor at the EOS Hackathons. People should have seen that I had some level of technical competency and that this might be something to explore.

At the end of the day whether there ends up being two versions of STEEM I hope everyone well and I will continue to promote crypto / blockchain tech through my professional baseball team which is going coast to coast this spring.

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smooth 5 years ago (edited)

Thanks for the discussion. In case you didn't catch the livestream, the token swap is off for now. The Steem blockchain will continue as-is and integration/bridges will be worked on at some unspecified time in the future. Wish you the best with your baseball team.

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brianphobos 5 years ago

Yeah I saw part of it. I think it is best. It makes it a slower approach and at least STEEM is back in the conversation and getting more eyes back on it.
Thank you!

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