RE: Downvote Pool Deep Dive

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RE: Downvote Pool Deep Dive

valued-customer in #steem • 6 years ago (edited)

Rewarding content creation is the primary value of Steem. I do not propose eliminating the pool (except perhaps as SMTs provide improved mechanisms) but eliminating unlimited extraction of rewards. Limiting rewards to some multiple of the median payout (Huey Long algorithm) will eliminate profiteering, if coupled with eliminating curation rewards (not the rewards pool).

We need to draw users to Steem, and rewarding quality content does that. Drawing users to Steem creates the market for Steem, which is why Steem has value. Increasing the market for Steem increases the value of Steem, which provides capital gains to investors. That's what we should be doing.

Encouraging profiteering and flagging is contrary to that, and EIP just makes it more profitable to extract rewards via financial manipulation. If Steem survives EIP making these problems worse, do consider the Huey Long algorithm, and dividends from funding development as mechanisms for creating capital gains.

6 years ago in #steem by valued-customer

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iflagtrash 6 years ago

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smooth 6 years ago

Limiting rewards to some multiple of the median payout (Huey Long algorithm) will eliminate profiteering

No it won't. It will induce spamming and more low value posting in order to generate the maximum payout for purposes of milking on a larger number of content items.

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valued-customer 6 years ago

I see no reason to expect more spam just because unlimited rewards aren't potential. It's remotely possible some folks would post more, lower value content. I don't care. That's an insignificant matter compared to rampant profiteering that has utterly broken curation, and is dropping Steem's market cap about 15 places per year. Leaving downvotes unchanged handles spam with facility now, and would continue to.

'Milking' posts is already done, and the additional work making more posts entails reveals good work ethic. These are trifles compared to the existential threat Steem is under presently, and that EIP would worsen.

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iflagtrash 6 years ago

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smooth 6 years ago

We'll have to agree to disagree.

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valued-customer 6 years ago

I can see why you wouldn't want to continue the discussion in this vein. It's pretty obvious that EIP just hands more Steem rewards to profiteers when such trivial justifications for it and better alternatives are carefully considered.

You have an agile mind, and I'm confident that were you interested you could devise better means of encouraging rational investment that drove capital gains. I'm not going to speculate as to your motivations, but I can see that your stated reasons to support EIP also support profiteering. Whether you discuss these matters or not, they'll be discussed, and the consequences of EIP will happen and become unavoidably obvious should it be adopted.

I have seen several comments in this conversation already referring to folks powering down now. Accelerating rapine of rewards via EIP will spread that exodus exponentially, whether or not it's discussed. The recent inception of centralized censorship of Steem accounts will make that worse. I find the faint opposition to both of these degradations of Steem strong evidence that the end is in sight, and better capitalized men than I are implementing their exit strategies.

May you enjoy every success in your ventures. Sometimes getting what we always wanted reveals we should want better, and I look forward to seeing what comes next from folks that have learned from the Steem story.

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iflagtrash 6 years ago

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