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lordbutterfly in #steem • 7 years ago

which made it easier for bad actors to divide up their stake and hide their activities.

Who is hiding their activity? This is such a non argument that it makes the whole post look silly.
There is no one hiding anything.
What delusional parallel universe are you people living in?
Everyone knows who everyone is and what and why they are doing what they are doing.
The onchain action delivers information and reveals motivation.

You overly complicated the text but if read carefully the context is extremely simplistic. It all returns to the original quoted sentence that contains an argument that is extremely unimportant and doesnt justify any change even in the slightest.

Jesus Christ, high stake holders will do whatever they want when ever they want to do it and you cant do anything about it. No one will do anything about it.

Talking about stake divide and someone "hiding their activity" is a discussion for the deluded or the ignorant that have no clue what steem interactions look like.

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valued-customer 7 years ago

"There is no one hiding anything."

That's not been true at all. Many, many socks exist on Steem, and @sherlockholmes discovered numerous well concealed botnets circle jerking one another using delegated stake from Steemit. Have a look at that account.

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iflagtrash 7 years ago

I flag trash. You have received a flag.

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lordbutterfly 7 years ago

Sure. But so what? What kind of impact do those have on the platform?
What makes you think they would not be doing the same thing under new conditions..

Those that counter this kind of behavior generally dont have a lot of SP and those that do have a lot of SP are the ones that have the greatest negative impact.
Consolidation into one account means little.
Right now one of the worst offenders is Bernie.
Having him consolidate into one account would mean jack. He would actually wield more power and be even more a menace on the platform.

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lordbutterfly 7 years ago

What we need is a community lead repressive aparatus.

I know folks here are anti government but you can never have a fair system unless you can effectively counter abuse.
Right now the question is:
"Do i try and counter abuse and potentially get crushed or ignore it and focus on myself."

That will always be the case.

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rycharde 7 years ago

Very true. All the game theory analysis shows that "bad behaviour" can only be slowed down if the penalties are greater than the rewards.

The point, however, needs careful analysis: what is bad behaviour if the blockchain allows it? We know when we see it but how does an algorithm "see it"?

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lordbutterfly 7 years ago

Sure. But so what? What kind of impact do those have on the platform?
What makes you think they would not be doing the same thing under new conditions..

Those that counter this kind of behavior generally dont have a lot of SP and those that do have a lot of SP are the ones that have the greatest negative impact.
Consolidation into one account means little.
Right now one of the worst offenders is Bernie.
Having him consolidate into one account would mean jack. He would actually wild more power and be even more a menace on the platform.

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baah (1) 7 years ago

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lordbutterfly 7 years ago

Dorsnt justify the change and it would do nothing for content or content placement..

You can always put it just enough amount of work... Which isnt much to justify self vote. Many orcas are doing it.
This adds nothing or makes anything better at the cost of so much.

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baah (1) 7 years ago

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lordbutterfly 7 years ago

Yes. It would do absolutely nothing and make so many other things many times worse.

Those that want to max will max and hide under the statement "quality is subjective" and you just gave them more power.
A 5 year old could understand this.
There is nothing you can do to the economy of steem that will fix it.
Thinking otherwise is deluded.

Either introduce a platform wide repressive aparatus or go into mechanical marginalization of bots on front ends.

Thx for your input.

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baah (1) 7 years ago

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lordbutterfly 7 years ago

Haha. Doesnt do anything as in the net effect. 😂
But pls do argue semnatics.

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sunlit7 7 years ago (edited)

Talking about stake divide and someone "hiding their activity" is a discussion for the deluded or the ignorant that have no clue what steem interactions look like.

You can say that again.

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