Please tell me how this will help more people want to come here?
Or even keep the few users we have?
This is going to increase the toxicity on the platform significantly. Receiving a downvote is exponentially worse than not receiving an upvote, emotionally.
Why are we not just waiting for SMTs and communities before we start throwing stuff at the wall?
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I think this is a terrible idea that will drive users away and I do not support it.
yeah second to that. rather than the possible benefits, it's guarantee to drive more users away. don't have the numbers maybe someone can help pull out the data.
new users figuring out their way on steem and suddenly some random downvote came. whose there to judge quality? what's useless to some, might be useful to some.
doesnt the flag war and downvotes equate to censorship ? if you dont like the content just move on. Now the idea of rewarding downvote, whoever that thought of it, imagine you're on the receiving end. U create a piece of content thinking it's quality then someone downvote it and be rewarded. how would you feel ?
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Exactly. We have trouble keeping people with a 30% ROI on their money(steem). What happens when people show up and they get randomly downvoted because... "quality". That is far more damaging than simply not receiving an upvote.
For every user, there is more to take their place who can deal with the system. I heard this phrase used by more than a few high ranking people in the community so some people don't even care. They think the reward split for eip with offset this downvote pool with new users.
There bet in on the 50/50 reward split will bring more users than we will lose with the changes.
"For every user, there is more to take their place..."
No, there's not. Even if there were an unlimited populace of potential users to draw from, this ignores that getting a user has costs. With a dismal retention rate of about ~7.5% YOY, that's a scary argument to make.
"...more than a few high ranking people in the community so some people don't even care. They think the reward split for eip with offset this downvote pool with new users."
"There bet in on the 50/50 reward split will bring more users than we will lose with the changes."
I bet you're talking about bidbot owners. Have you ever noticed a difference between rhetoric and action? Sometimes people say things they don't mean. It's actually a very common practice. Fraud is horribly common, and that's what fraud is.
I'm not saying no one honestly feels this way, but there are certainly people with financial incentive to support proposals such as this which will make their profiteering more profitable. Increasing curation rewards will not in any conceivable way increase retention of new users with insubstantial stakes, because the quantity of rewards they can gain from the work necessary is insubstantial. Most new users won't jump in with substantial stakes, because even fairly simple people will want to test the waters first.
Extant substantial stakeholders are profiteering from their stakes almost to a man. I know of some few that curate for other reasons, and god bless every one of them. They are the exceptions, not the rule.
Throwing stuff at the wall is acting as if flagging is extensively abused by the community and not wanting to consider the suggestion outside that narrow minded idea that flagging is extensively abused by the community at large.
Bro, it's very disingenuous what you're doing, acting as if SMT or communities will address the lack of policing which is endemic to user retention as garbage gets overpriced, because "que es qualita".
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