RE: A Whaleshares Bank on Steemit

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lordbutterfly in #introduceyourself • 6 years ago (edited)

When I recommended Whaleshares contact Steem Engine and make a trading pair with steemp the folks in charge told me to suck it. I even talked to Aggroed and he said he was happy to talk to your team. And that was before everyone left Whaleshares and the price dumped hard.

Now this pops up. Don't blame me for saying too little too late.
You guys messed up badly and with the dictatorship attitude you have there I'm not sure how anyone will give you a chance now.

You had a chance to cultivate a relationship between communities but you hated Steemit too much and didn't even listen to your community at all.
I fear it's too late for whaleshares and this attempt to create connections now seems needy.

Like a drowning man reaching to get saved. You had time when price was higher when a lot of us wanted a bridge between the platforms.

Most of us that were on whaleshares pretty much hold a middle finger up to whaleshares now.

6 years ago in #introduceyourself by lordbutterfly

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whaleshares-bank 6 years ago (edited)

Hi, this Bank service is a user initiative and I (@pankso) am not part of the Whaleshares team. I don't know about this story but thanks for sharing. Yes indeed, good relationship between platforms are important.

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profanereviews 6 years ago (edited)

To be fair, that was me that told you to fuck off and Pankso had nothing to do with it. I am also not a member of the Whaleshares team though.

You were also not very nice when you worded your offer, which was why I got a bit prickly.

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lordbutterfly 6 years ago

Our talk was a few weeks ago. Im talking 6+ months ago here.

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profanereviews 6 years ago (edited)

Yes, that is the one I am referring to. You came into the discord and told us that now that WLS is worthless, we should get a steemengine token and become a Steem tribe.

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lordbutterfly 6 years ago

Didnt say Whaleshares was worthless. WLS price is at worthless levels, which is true. And that was far after i talked to folks about the possibility of Steem engine integration.

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lordbutterfly 6 years ago

Check April 2. in the discord chat.

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profanereviews 6 years ago

Okay, you had said 6 months ago so that was where I looked. I wasn't around for the April chats I guess. The thing about all of this is that there are people that believe in Whaleshares, despite the name, and there are people that just try to cash in on Whaleshares.

I see a lot of those people commenting on this post and that is fine. I also see people buying back the cheap WLS because it is a great platform and has a good, working blockchain under it. Sure, things could have been run better but in the end there is still a group of people who want to see this work.

Not for the price of WLS but to have a comfortable, uncensored place to hang out and without the fear of having your content flagged. As long as there are enough witnesses to keep the chain running and there are a few people that want to stay and talk, why does there need to be so much meddling in what goes on over there?

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lordbutterfly 6 years ago (edited)

It's hardly meddling. It's people providing feedback on what they see is going on.

As you can see from my April convo I was simply sharing the complete basics of how the market works and the need to expand whaleshares reach. I was shut down numerous times for simply trying to help either on discord or on chain.
The team literally did not want to listen to any feedback at all.

They decided to shun any mention of steem or any opportunity that was there to take advantage of the falling trust at the time in steemit.inc.

Even in my discussions about expanding their reach by creating easy trading pairs they completely dismissed it because they hated steem.
Instead of creating a bridge between communities they lived in fear that everyone will sell their tokens, they feared that whales would manipulate the marker when the absolute fact is that being constricted to one pair bts/wls leads to massive dumping and liability due to it being the only point of entry and exit.

They are absolutely incompetent and I'd go and say that they have absolutely no clue of how to run a project like this.

They even stripped the revolutionary idea of reward pool allocation and adopted the stupidest system of paying out inflation to stake holders completely removing the need for a content platform.

It's all beyond ludicrous.

WLS right now has 0 utility. Its simply a token printing station relying on greater fool theory.

People that did care about it's success left and whaleshares is a joke to us now we laugh at in discord.
Expecting us to not say anything now is hard to expect after being dissapointed this much.

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profanereviews 6 years ago

And here we go again. When I said "meddling" I wasn't referring to you but to the dozens of other people that came from Steemit to try and undermine.

When you constantly barrage people with how smart you are compared to how stupid they are, are you surprised when you are met with hostility? Telling people that they are stupid because they don't want things to be the same as you do doesn't make them stupid, it makes you ignorant to other people's way of thinking.

What does the price of their token or how they distribute the token matter? If there are people that like the tipping structure, let them tip. I tip away all of my daily rewards to people that I like or enjoy the content they share. There are others that do the same. I try to tip the people that I know will keep their tokens on the chain but I have no say with what they do with them.

Does that affect you or any other person who has left the platform? It shouldn't, yet you felt the need to give @pankso a piece of your mind when he simply tried to give people what they had been asking for. A way to trade WLS for Steem.

I have tried to come back to Steemit and hang out to see if the platform has become more friendly and have been met with mostly good feelings but did notice the other day that I was being flagged for getting SBI upvotes. Luckily my buddy @buttcoins counteracts any rewards I might have lost but that's neither here nor there. It's not a friendly place for everyone. I am still going to use it, and keep my rewards in my account here but you shouldn't think that the reward system is the be-all, end-all. There is a lot of room for improvement and anyone who thinks their system is perfect is naive or lying.

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lordbutterfly 6 years ago

When you constantly barrage people with how smart you are compared to how stupid they are, are you surprised when you are met with hostility?

My barrage was in the form of constructive feedback that in the end shown could have helped Whaleshares. I never once called anyone stupid in discord or in DMs. I do call them stupid now, so thats fair.

Does that affect you or any other person who has left the platform? It shouldn't, yet you felt the need to give @pankso a piece of your mind when he simply tried to give people what they had been asking for. A way to trade WLS for Steem.

Yes. I gave him a piece of my mind and i hope the feedback he gets goes back to people on whaleshares so they start to understand what those that are dissapointed with the path Whaleshares took have to say.
There is this very strange position the whaleshares people tend to align themselves with.

Only if its nice and not criticism.

Well there is criticism galore for Whaleshares and people will speak it. I will speak it here as well and ill give my take on things on posts i feel fit to do so on.
When Whaleshares started everyone was so happy to speak their mind about Steemit on whaleshares, being happy they left.

Why condemn me for speaking my mind about Whaleshares?

There is a lot of room for improvement and anyone who thinks their system is perfect is naive or lying.

Crypto is full of absolute garbage. I mean i just covered MINDOL few minutes ago in a post, but the point is to find something that you enjoy. Steem, whaleshares, Steemmonsters whatever.
There is a massive human component to the reward system here and it will be as perfect as we are as users and stake holders... meaning it will always be flawed.
But thats the good part of it. Us as a community molding what the platform we are on looks like.

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coininstant 6 years ago (edited)

What... this place has a dictator attitude too, really! You all dictate everything. You're dictating right now! @Mr. Dictatorbutterfly! lol jk Don't get your panties in a bunch and get all hurt feelings again on me now! lol

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lordbutterfly 6 years ago

Who are "we"?
What am i dictating here exactly? Im sharing my views.

Lol. Im not sure what is it that you have a problem with.

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coininstant 6 years ago (edited)

Relax bro, I was just kidding! I'm always just kidding. Like to say whatI think. I can be wrong sometimes, no big deal. I don't have a problem with you. In general here everybody dictates with their power, flags and whatever. Posts have be this, or that, and no bidbots, and no self voting. It's endless. "We" is everybody else here excluding me!

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lordbutterfly 6 years ago

Dude, if you werent trying to dictate what and how people should act and attack those that dont act the way you think they should, you wouldnt be on a bunch of blacklists. lol

You do the exact thing as everyone else, the difference is that you devolve it into personal attacks, spam, being annoying, following people around you dislike, berating them at every step. If youre ignored you push harder so they notice you and you dont feel like youre talking to yourself....

"We" is everybody including you. ;)

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coininstant 6 years ago (edited)

Of course I dictate, I'm a hypocrite, so what. I really don't care what other people do.

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justinashby 6 years ago

This place has a YOU problem.

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