VIX is up Today. What does that mean?

in TradFi8 days ago (edited)

Good day TradFi Community!

So we are going through a rough patch in financial markets. Up until fairly recently, we have had a lot of bullish sentiment as it relates to AI but that has not translated well to shareholder earnings; this was always as concern as the rally related to AI started. Some companies have done better than others as it relates to AI. $META (Facebook's holding company) has done well with AI so far but $MSFT has been lacking. It seems like we were already on the verge of a selloff and when $MSFT posted poor earnings that was one of the drivers that escalated the selloff, in my opinion.

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Rather than getting too deep into what all is driving everything happening in markets, I did want to talk about the VIX and what it is and what it is supposed to mean.

So the VIX is up about 15% today. As I am writing this post the VIX has been jumping around quite a bit today.

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https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EVIX/

If we zoom out we can see this is not the sharpest or biggest move by the VIX but it is still not "good" for investors when we have a surging VIX with downward price movement.

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https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EVIX/

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So what is the VIX?

The VIX is often times referred to as the "Fear Index." I don't think this is the best description for the VIX but that description is an easy way to describe it in a concise way.

VIX has been around for a long time. It was started in 1993. It is basically a mathematical way to articulate sentiment.

When the VIX sees sharp increases this usually indicates fear and uncertainty. Historically a VIX index below 20 implies the market is "stable" but that is not always true; as always, it really just depends on the current market and what is happening. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/v/vix.asp

The VIX is forward looking, meaning it is trying to articulate expected volatility in the future. If you are following markets right now, you can appreciate there is an expectation for increased volatility. The stock market does not typically just go down or up, typically it bounces around while following some trend. So in this case we are seeing a pretty large stock market sell off. Expectations for increased volatility makes sense because if there is a rebound it could be dramatic just like the recent selloff.

As I continue to write this post VIX is now down to 12.46%, that is just how it goes sometimes. I am going to keep this post short and sweet so it stays relevant.

If you want to read in detail about the VIX you can reference this link - https://cdn.cboe.com/resources/indices/Volatility_Index_Methodology_Cboe_Volatility_Index.pdf
Please be mindful, the VIX is an investment product sold by CBOE so this link I shared is a bit promotional in nature. But the PDF shared here does a good job articulating how the VIX is calculated and what it is holding.

*Nothing in this post is financial advise and this post is meant for educational purposes only.

Cheers,

Hurt

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Sorry it took me a sec to get back to this. I got distracted which is a me problem lol

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The VIX index. I saw this somewhere but never looking into it.

Too quickly, I open the PDF in your post! This was last night just before going to sleep.
My initial thoughts: Darn this is going to need some time for me to digest! All the formulas and shizzle. Too long time ago I applied math and/or played around with it. But I also know, when understanding how a number is created, it is mucho better to understand the meaning of the number. I plan to hit the books (PDF) but when I have some time and space to do so. Thanks for this - I think - very useful algo and number.

The VIX index. I saw this somewhere but never looking into it.


Right now... I can say I know a little bit more of this because of this post, haha!

😆

We live. We learn.

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It's easy to feel overwhelmed when the "Fear Index," so to speak, starts to rise and the enthusiasm for AI collides with reality. I suppose this happens when you expect more than you want, which is why it's good to stay grounded and allow yourself the luxury of investing only what you can afford. Posts like this help transform that anxiety into understanding. I think that way we can better manage information when we understand what's happening. Markets, like us, have their difficult moments, and sometimes we just have to take a breath despite the volatility. I really appreciate you keeping us informed and level-headed while everything changes.

My expectation is that there will always be a rebound, a rise, a stock market miracle, and that 2026 will surprise us in a positive way.

My expectation is that there will always be a rebound, a rise, a stock market miracle, and that 2026 will surprise us in a positive way.


This is very inspiring.

Despite the current dire situation, we need to think positively and keep working (hard).

That's right, my friend. Hive is fantastic; this situation is temporary. We have an excellent community, and we'll come out stronger.

Those who have been here longer already know how amazing Hive is. The big problem is those who still haven't understood that.

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I want to have faith and certainty that these are only momentary matters and that in a few years we will look back on this moment and use it as a reference that sometimes things happen that we cannot control, but that despite them, Hive and its community continued on their path, strong and headed for success

I don't know if I'm being overly optimistic, but thinking otherwise wouldn't do much good. I prefer to focus on a great future where cryptocurrencies are at the forefront, and of course, Hive is by our side.

Greetings, potato, I don't know much about financial indices or Tradfi, I'm just saying what my heart feels.

Your comment reinforces the idea that we need to believe in better days. To think positively about a future that isn't good today, but that can improve over time.

It's not easy to stay calm and patient in scenarios like this (much less stay motivated). On the other hand, by weighing what's important to us... We can always find the motivation to keep going.

I do not want people who only know about finance or TradFi. Those people tend to not be very interesting and have very narrow opinions. This is a good comment and I will be adding you as a member so you can be eligible for TradFi upvotes.

You are encouraged to contribute and ask questions. Questions and learning are what make this community better. I do not want to talk to experts because I want to talk to people willing to learn.

I have no idea what is going to happen to HIVE but I think optimism is better then pessimism. Thanks for stopping by and I look forward to hearing from you more! Cheers!

Exactly, my friend, I prefer to be optimistic. I believe that when there's optimism, many doors open and more possibilities appear or begin to emerge.

Thanks for adding me to your community. I already knew about it through @angeluxx. By the way, she sends her regards; she couldn't talk to you on Discord because her phone died as soon as she logged in. There's a power outage. And she really wanted to say hello on Discord. Thank you for all the support you've given them; it's been very kind of you. I'm her mother, and she's told me about the community, but my job and household chores prevent me from being very active on Hive, but I try. It's a pleasure and a pleasure to be welcomed to your space; I'll keep it in mind and try to participate whenever possible.

I get silly in discord FYI. I don't take discord seriously in the same way I do HIVE which you may have picked up on 🤣

I take TradFi community and HIVE seriously but I like to have a good time on discord.

Relax, buddy. The next rocket to the moon won't launch for at least two years. Just unwind and enjoy the teddy bear dance.

The next rocket to the moon won't launch for at least two years

Why do you say that? LOL

The last halving btc was not in 2024, the next one is in 2028 and we are in 2026.

Ahh so you think that because of the cycles. I personally do not think the halving has that much of an impact anymore.

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It's good to relax and take a break. I'm not much of a Discord user, but I could make an exception. Thanks for the chat. See you around those parts another time

It's good to relax and take a break.

I need to work on this! LOL

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... I think optimism is better then pessimism.


There's no better way of keep going.

This is like the pinnacle of positive thinking. :)

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The situation is a bit strange; I think it's finding its equilibrium. We mustn't despair, though. My grandmother always tells me that after the storm comes the calm. Uffff Friends What a storm, gentlemen!

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Emotional maturity is a key factor in this game.

That's right, my friend, and knowing how to face each decision

This should be our top priority (in life).

so there are things in the market that are like reference stock. when this things move up, they have to mean something that you can take it as a reference to your assets. Financial thing is too broad as I realized it.

TradFi is very broad. It includes a lot of things. You can spend a lifetime learning about this stuff. Thanks for stopping by it is always good to hear from you!

That is precisely the main reason why I believe this community will still become something huge someday.

Honestly, this is all crazy, I didn't know it existed A fear index. Interesting, I suppose everything that happens globally has a drastic impact; we are living through key moments. I hope everything gets sorted out and we can have some peace of mind; I say this because of the only currency I use, my beloved Hive.❤️

It is not really a "fear" index they just call it that because typically in TradFi volatility is a "dirty" word.

Historically, in traditional capital markets volatility is associated with risk.

In crypto people love volatility but that is very unique to crypto.

I am not sure how much global stuff is actually impacting markets. Most financial news is nonsense and primarily entertainment.

Like if you look at the S&P over a long period of time most of the big moments in history end up being pretty insignificant.

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I am not sure how much global stuff is actually impacting markets.


We will never have a proper answer to that. I think the closest thing to that is the certainty that everything is - in some way - connected.

To the moon

What moon? Haha!

We are not witnessing the death of cryptocurrencies. Sooner or later we will have another bull run and the phrase "to the moon" will return.

Sure thing.

Plus, anyone who's been playing this game for a while knows that. The rest is pure "cyber terrorism".

Look, I played this last bull market very badly. What I learned is worth more than what I lost.
That's why I'm not bothered by the next bear market. I'll surely do much better in the next bull market thanks to what I learned.

What I learned is worth more than what I lost.


Here, you've got the spirit of the whole game. :)

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Hopefully we don’t have a VIX moon but it could totally happen. Only time will tell!

Never say never, haha!

I thought 2026 would be fantastic, everything seemed to be in place, but things are so chaotic. What's happening, my God?

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No es caotica la situación. Si BTC cae a 60k recien sera caotico.Pero nadie tiene la bola de cristal. Historicamente BTC asi como genera nuevos maximos suculentos, tambien tiene correcciones monstruosas.

I understand,

El bajon acelerado de BTC te dio el curso rapido. Ahora el juego se trata de acumular criptos y esperar el proximo nuevo máximo de btc para vender. Llevara un buen tiempo de espera. No hay que rendirse.

2026 is not a bad year per se. There are lot of things that happen that people cannot predict.

If you zoom out on capital markets this is what some people would describe as a "correction"

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IMO the stock market has been running hot based on the idea that AI is going to help increase profits. I think AI will do this for corporations over the long term but how AI does that is anyone's guess. AI has not delivered on profits for corporations in the way people were hoping it would over the short term and that has produced negative results in terms of price.

Hello, you could say that some investors are scared, but it's because they are impatient And the indices interpret that and go into warning mode. Right?

Each new high brings a sharp correction in BTC. But the new lows are higher.
The long-term trend is bullish.
If BTC is a store of value, then whoever commits 126k and sells today is someone who needs money and loses a large part of it. BTC is not digital gold; gold is on the moon.
Surely in the next 4-year cycle, BTC will reach 200k.
The S&P 500 is also on the moon. We're coming out of a growth cycle. I don't look at these values ​​in the US. It will be interesting to watch when there's a crisis that makes everything cheaper.
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If we look closely, I think the market always has something good to offer us. It's just all a matter of perspective and reorganizing our goals.

that seems a roller coaster, i'm checking the 6 months grapic from the link and it goes up and down with similar behavior... now it should either go up a bit more or just down again... it's good for who likes trading fast

Trading has never been as tricky as it is now.

Some people try to trade it. It typically doesn't work out for people who do though because it's really just guess work.

Yeah. Such a challenge work.

I would expect there was going to be some kind of correction after the steady climb we have seen over the past year. I agree, we are probably still going to see some crazier moves before too long.

It's going to get worse before it gets better. It seems that's the main "rule" of this game.

Yea the S&P is still up like 14% over the last year. Multiples aren't too stretched and earnings have been "fine" just not the growth people are expecting.

I am mostly in a hold and wait pattern right now. I don't do much when markets are like this.

I don't do much most of the time anyway. All of my buys are baked into my budget and happen automatically either before taxes or after. I don't really even miss the money.

VIX going up is signal for fear, falling stocks, risk off.
We had a long run upwards.
So it is quite normal that this is not going up all the time.

The "seesaw effect" is always something that scares the market as a whole.

Volatility is vitality.

It's food for the trader.

That’s also a way to put it, yes. 😅

It's like food for the traders, literally.

I think it's also something that strengthens their emotional development (someway, somehow).

Saylor knows that better than most. Especially right now 😅

Indeed 😋

Saylor is going to eat flour and water this year

"Calm waters don't make good sailors", they say.


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Volatility is increasing by the day

The new normal, I would say.

For sure. VIX already pulled back some after I wrote this post but I don’t think this crazy train is over just yet.

New trains. New surprises.

How fun can this market be? Haha!

i'm not scared.. vix movement provides good moves..

and 15% is quite a good one.

I don’t trade it but it’s interesting to watch. I mostly just use it for research myself and just gauging the market.

Which is a very clever move to be honest. :)

Random question. Would you be interested in providing your opinion about Wendy's stock in a post at some point?

Why not?

My pleasure. :)

I think it would be cool to get your perspective on it. I want to say more but I think it would be better for you to look at it first so I do not create any bias 😀

I get a lot of different opinions on it when I ask people what they think so it will be interesting to see where you land. Cheers man!

I'm ready for this.

This community has made me study more about TradFi.

yes. that's a good practice. i have to get better at checking news, VIX, anything other that just looking at the chart.

Checking the news frequently is a great way to stay up-to-date on what's happening. Just be careful about where you get your information.

VIX is the gift to all options buyers/sellers. Although admittedly, I've been on the receiving end this week no thanks to the GLD/SLV implosion! 🤣

DOW breaks 50K! Wild times!
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In the midst of all this storm (in any type of investment option), I just hope that the best will happen for all of us.

We need to believe in better days.

Wow, that’s cool! I was just about to ask if this VIX was a crypto or a stock 😂
Thanks for the info, I’d never heard about that before!

The AI pivot is getting real now.It feels like investors have finally stopped buying into the hype and started looking at the actual bottom line. $META seems to have the secret sauce for now, but $MSFT definitely gave the market a reality check.

We live. We learn.

The investment wheel never stops turning.

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